PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: Mr. President, Barack, it's a great pleasure for me to
host you here in Jerusalem. You've graciously hosted me many times in
Washington, so I'm very pleased to have this opportunity to reciprocate. I hope
that the goodwill and warmth of the people of Israel has already made you feel
at home.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Very much so.
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: We had an opportunity today to begin discussing the
wide range of issues that are critical to both our countries, and foremost among
these is Iran's relentless pursuit of nuclear weapons.
Mr. President, you have made it clear that you are determined to prevent Iran
from developing nuclear weapons. I appreciate your forthright position on this
point. I also appreciate that you have noted, that you have acted to thwart this
threat, both through determined diplomacy and strong sanctions that are getting
stronger yet. Notwithstanding our joint efforts and your great success in
mobilizing the international community, diplomacy and sanctions so far have not
stopped Iran's nuclear program. And as you know, my view is that in order to
stop Iran's nuclear programs peacefully, diplomacy and sanctions must be
augmented by a clear and credible threat of military action.
In this regard, Mr. President, I want to thank you once again for always
making clear that Israel must be able to defend itself by itself against any
threats. I deeply appreciate those words because they speak to the great
transformation that has occurred in the life of the Jewish people with the
rebirth of the Jewish state. The Jewish people only two generations ago were
once a powerless people, defenseless against those who sought our destruction.
Today we have both the right and the capability to defend ourselves. As you said
earlier today, the essence of the State of Israel, the essence of the rebirth of
the Jewish state, is the fulfillment of the age-old dream of the Jewish people:
to be masters of our fate in our own state, and I think that was a wonderful
line that I will cherish, because it really gets down to the essence of what
this state is about.
That is why I know that you appreciate that Israel never cede the right to
defend ourselves to others, even to the greatest of our friends, and Israel has
no better friend than the United States of America.
So I look forward to continue to work with you to address what is an
existential threat to Israel, and a great threat to the peace and security of
the world.
Mr. President, we discussed today the situation in Syria. We share the goal
of seeing a stable and peaceful Syria emerge from the carnage that we have
witnessed over the last two years. That carnage is already resulted in the
deaths of over 70,000 people and the suffering of millions. We also share a
determination to prevent the deadly arsenal of weapons within Syria from falling
into terrorist hands. And I have no doubt that the best way to do that is to
work closely with the United States and other countries in the region to address
this challenge; and that is what we intend to do.
Finally, Mr. President, your visit gave us an opportunity to try to find a
way to advance peace between Israelis and Palestinians. My new government was
sworn in two days ago. I know there have been questions regarding what the
policy of the new government will be towards peace with the Palestinians. So let
me be clear: Israel remains fully committed to peace and to the solution of two
states for two peoples. We extend our hands in peace and in friendship to the
Palestinian people. I hope that your visit, along with the visit of Secretary of
State Kerry will help us turn a page in our relations with the Palestinians. Let
us sit down at the negotiating table. Let us put aside all preconditions. Let us
work together to achieve the historic compromise that will end our conflict once
and for all.
Let me conclude, Mr. President, on a personal note: I know how valuable the
time and the energies of the American president, of yourself. This is the tenth
time that we have met since you became President and since I became Prime
Minister. You’ve chosen Israel as your first venue in your foreign visits in
your second term. I want to thank you for the investment you have made in our
relationship, and in strengthening the friendship and alliance between our two
countries. It is deeply, deeply appreciated.
You have come here on the eve of Passover. I’ve always considered it as our
most cherished holiday. It celebrates the Jewish people’s passage from slavery
to freedom. Through the ages, it has also inspired people struggling for
freedom, including the founding fathers of the United States. So it’s a profound
honor to host you, the leader of the free world, at this historic time in our
ancient capital.
Mr. President. Welcome to Israel, welcome to Jerusalem.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Thank you.
Well, thank you, Prime Minister Netanyahu, for your kind words and for your
wonderful welcome here today. And I want to express a special thanks to Sara as
well as your two sons for their warmth and hospitality. It was wonderful to see
them. They are - I did inform the Prime Minister that they are very good-looking
young men who clearly got their looks from their mother.
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: Well, I can say the same of your daughters.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: This is true. Our goal is to improve our gene pool by
marrying women who are better than we are.
Mr. Prime Minister, I want to begin by congratulating you on the formation of
your new government. In the United States, we work hard to find agreement
between our two major parties. Here in Israel, you have to find consensus among
many more. And few legislatures can compete with the intensity of the Knesset.
But all of this reflects the thriving nature of Israel's democracy.
As Bibi mentioned, this is our 10th meeting. We've spent more time together,
working together, than I have with any leader. And this speaks to the closeness
of our two nations, the interests and the values that we share, and the depth
and breadth of the ties between our two peoples.
As leaders, our most solemn responsibility is the security of our people -
that's job number one. My job as President of the United States, first and
foremost, is to keep the American people safe. Bibi, as Prime Minister, your
first task is to keep the people of Israel safe. And Israel's security needs are
truly unique, as I've seen myself. In past trips I visited villages near the
Blue Line. I've walked through Israeli homes devastated by Hezbollah rockets.
I've stood in Sderot, and met with children who simply want to grow up free from
fear. And flying in today, I saw again how Israel's security can be measured in
mere miles and minutes.
As President, I've, therefore, made it clear America's commitment to the
security of the State of Israel is a solemn obligation, and the security of
Israel is non-negotiable.
Today, our military and intelligence personnel cooperate more closely than
ever before. We conduct more joint exercises and training than ever before.
We're providing more security assistance and advanced technology to Israel than
ever before. And that includes more support for the missile defenses like Iron
Dome, which I saw today and which has saved so many Israeli lives.
In short - and I don't think this is just my opinion, I think, Bibi, you
would share this - America's support for Israel's security is unprecedented, and
the alliance between our nations has never been stronger.
That's the sturdy foundation we built on today as we addressed a range of
shared challenges. As part of our long-term commitment to Israel's security, the
Prime Minister and I agreed to begin discussions on extending military
assistance to Israel. Our current agreement lasts through 2017, and we've
directed our teams to start working on extending it for the years beyond.
I'm also pleased to announce that we will take steps to ensure that there's
no interruption of funding for Iron Dome. As a result of decisions that I made
last year, Israel will receive approximately $200 million this fiscal year and
we will continue to work with Congress on future funding of Iron Dome. These are
further reminders that we will help to preserve Israel's qualitative military
edge so that Israel can defend itself, by itself, against any threat.
We also discussed the way forward to a two-state solution between Israelis
and Palestinians. And I very much welcomed Bibi's words before I spoke. I'll be
meeting with President Abbas tomorrow, and I will have more to say on this topic
in the speech that I deliver to the Israeli people tomorrow. But for now, let me
just reiterate that a central element of a lasting peace must be a strong and
secure Jewish state, where Israel's security concerns are met, alongside a
sovereign and independent Palestinian state.
In this regard, I'd note that last year was a milestone - the first year in
four decades when not a single Israeli citizen lost their life because of
terrorism emanating from the West Bank. It's a reminder that Israel has a
profound interest in a strong and effective Palestinian Authority. And as the
Prime Minister's new government begins its work, we'll continue to look for
steps that both Israelis and Palestinians can take to build trust and confidence
upon which lasting peace will depend.
We also reaffirmed the importance of ensuring Israel's security given the
changes and uncertainty in the region. As the United States supports the
Egyptian people in their historic transition to democracy, we continue to
underscore the necessity of Egypt contributing to regional security, preventing
Hamas from rearming and upholding its peace treaty with Israel.
With respect to Syria, the United States continues to work with allies and
friends and the Syrian opposition to hasten the end of Assad's rule, to stop the
violence against the Syrian people, and begin a transition toward a new
government that respects the rights of all its people.
Assad has lost his legitimacy to lead by attacking the Syrian people with
almost every conventional weapon in his arsenal, including Scud missiles. And we
have been clear that the use of chemical weapons against the Syrian people would
be a serious and tragic mistake. We also share Israel's grave concern about the
transfer of chemical or other weapon systems to terrorists - such as Hezbollah -
that might be used against Israel. The Assad regime must understand that they
will be held accountable for the use of chemical weapons or their transfer to
terrorists.
And finally, we continued our close consultation on Iran. We agree that a
nuclear-armed Iran would be a threat to the region, a threat to the world, and
potentially an existential threat to Israel. And we agree on our goal. We do not
have a policy of containment when it comes to a nuclear Iran. Our policy is to
prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon.
We prefer to resolve this diplomatically, and there's still time to do so.
Iran's leaders must understand, however, that they have to meet their
international obligations. And, meanwhile, the international community will
continue to increase the pressure on the Iranian government. The United States
will continue to consult closely with Israel on next steps. And I will repeat:
All options are on the table. We will do what is necessary to prevent Iran from
getting the world's worst weapons.
Meeting none of these challenges will be easy. It will demand the same
courage and resolve as those who have preceded us.
And on Friday, I'll be honored to visit Mount Herzl and pay tribute to the
leaders and soldiers who have laid down their lives for Israel. One of them was
Yoni Netanyahu. And in one of his letters home, he wrote to his family, “Don't
forget - strength, justice, and staunch resolution are on our side, and that is
a great deal.”
Mr. Prime Minister, like families across Israel, you and your family have
served and sacrificed to defend your country and to pass it, safe and strong, to
your children just as it was passed on to you. Standing here today, I can say
with confidence that Israel's security is guaranteed because it has a great deal
on its side, including the unwavering support of the United States of America.
Q: Mr. President, may I ask you about Syria a practical question and a
moral one? Morally, how is it possible that for the last two years, tens of
thousands of innocent civilians are being massacred, and no one in the world,
the United States and you, are doing anything to stop it immediately. On a
practical level, you have said today and also in the past that the use of
chemical weapons would be crossing of a red line. It seems that this red line
was crossed yesterday. What specifically do you intend to do about it?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: I'll answer the question in reverse order, if you don't
mind. I'll talk about the chemical weapons first and then, the larger
question.
With respect to chemical weapons, we intend to investigate thoroughly exactly
what happened. Obviously, in Syria right now you've got a war zone. You have
information that's filtered out, but we have to make sure that we know exactly
what happened - what was the nature of the incident, what can we document, what
can we prove. So I've instructed my teams to work closely with all of the
countries in the region and international organizations and institutions to find
out precisely whether or not this red line was crossed.
I will note, without at this point having all the facts before me, that we
know the Syrian government has the capacity to carry out chemical weapon
attacks. We know that there are those in the Syrian government who have
expressed a willingness to use chemical weapons if necessary to protect
themselves. I am deeply skeptical of any claim that, in fact, it was the
opposition that used chemical weapons. Everybody who knows the facts of the
chemical weapon stockpiles inside Syria as well as the Syrian government's
capabilities I think would question those claims. But I know that they're
floating out there right now.
The broader point is, is that once we establish the facts I have made clear
that the use of chemical weapons is a game changer. And I won't make an
announcement today about next steps because I think we have to gather the facts.
But I do think that when you start seeing weapons that can cause potential
devastation and mass casualties and you let that genie out of the bottle, then
you are looking potentially at even more horrific scenes than we've already seen
in Syria. And the international community has to act on that additional
information. But as is always the case when it comes to issues of war and peace,
I think having the facts before you act is very important.
More broadly, as I said in my opening statement, I believe that the Assad
regime has lost all credibility and legitimacy. I think Assad must go - and I
believe he will go. It is incorrect for you to say that we have done nothing. We
have helped to mobilize the isolation of the Assad regime internationally. We
have supported and recognized the opposition. We have provided hundreds of
millions of dollars in support for humanitarian aid. We have worked diligently
with other countries in the region to provide additional tools to move towards a
political transition within Syria.
If your suggestion is, is that I have not acted unilaterally militarily
inside of Syria, well, the response has been - or my response would be that, to
the extent possible, I want to make sure that we're working as an international
community to deal with this problem, because I think it's a world problem, not
simply a United States problem, or an Israel problem, or a Turkish problem. It's
a world problem when tens of thousands of people are being slaughtered,
including innocent women and children.
And so we will continue to work in an international framework to try to bring
about the kind of change that's necessary in Syria. Secretary Kerry has been
working nonstop since he came into his current position to try to help mobilize
and organize our overall efforts, and we will continue to push every lever that
we have to try to bring about a resolution inside of Syria that respects the
rights and the safety and security of all people, regardless of whatever
sectarian lines currently divide Syria.
Last point I'll make, which is probably obvious, is this is not easy. When
you start seeing a civil war that has sectarian elements to it, and you've got a
repressive government that is intent on maintaining power, and you have mistrust
that has broken out along sectarian lines, and you have an opposition that has
not had the opportunity or time to organize itself both politically as well as
militarily, then you end up seeing some of the devastation that you've been
seeing. And we're going to do everything we can to continue to prevent it. And I
know that the vast majority of our international partners feel the same way.
Q: There was some friendly banter between you two gentlemen on the tarmac
today about red lines, and I'm wondering how much of a serious matter that
actually became in your talks and will be in your talks to come tonight.
President Obama has said it will take Iran at least a year to build a bomb.
That's months longer than the Prime Minister believes.
Mr. President, are you asking the Prime Minister to be more patient, to hold
off for at least a year on any kind of military action against Iran?
Mr. Prime Minister, has President Obama's words - have they convinced you
that he is putting forth the credible military threat that you have repeatedly
asked for, or there's a need to go further? Thank you.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Bibi, why don't you go - take a first swing at this.
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: Well, first of all, there are so many strips of
different colors on the tarmac that we did have a joke about that, but obviously
this matter is no joke. It relates to our very existence, and to something also
that the President correctly identified as a grave, strategic threat to the
United States and to the peace and security of the world. I'm absolutely
convinced that the President is determined to prevent Iran from getting nuclear
weapons. I appreciate that. And I also appreciate something that he said, which
I mentioned in my opening remarks: that the Jewish people have come back to
their own country to be the masters of their own fate. And I appreciate the fact
that the President has reaffirmed, more than any other President, Israel's right
and duty to defend itself by itself against any threat.
We just heard those important words now, and I think that sums up our, I
would say our common view: Iran is a grave threat to Israel, a grave threat to
the world - a nuclear Iran. The United States is committed to deal with it.
Israel is committed to deal with it. We have different vulnerabilities,
obviously, and different capabilities. We take that into account, but what we do
maintain, and the President, I think, is the first to do so, is that Israel has
a right to independently defend itself against any threat including the Iranian
threat.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: I think the only thing I would add is that our intelligence
cooperation on this issue, the consultation between our militaries, our
intelligence, is unprecedented, and there is not a lot of light, a lot of
daylight between our countries' assessments in terms of where Iran is right
now.
I think that what Bibi alluded to, which is absolutely correct, is each
country has to make its own decisions when it comes to the awesome decision to
engage in any kind of military action, and Israel is differently situated than
the United States. And I would not expect that the Prime Minister would make a
decision about his country's security and defer that to any other country - any
more than the United States would defer our decisions about what was important
for our national security.
I have shared with Bibi, as I've said to the entire world, as I've said to
the Iranian people and Iranian leaders, that I think there is time to resolve
this issue diplomatically. The question is, will Iranian leadership seize that
opportunity? Will they walk through that door?
And it would be in everybody's interests - not just Israel's interests, not
just the United States' interests - it would be in the interest of the Iranian
people if this gets resolved diplomatically. Because the truth of the matter is,
is that the most permanent solution to the Iranian situation is ultimately going
to be their decision that it is not worth it for them to pursue nuclear weapons.
That will be the lasting change. If we can get that, that's good for everybody,
including Iran, because it would allow them to break out of the isolation that
has hampered their society and their economic development for many years.
But I don't know whether they're going to be willing to take that step. And
obviously, their past behavior indicates that, in the words of - or a play on
words on what Ronald Reagan said - we can't even trust yet, much less verify.
But we do have to test the proposition that this can be resolved diplomatically.
And if it can't, then I've repeated to Bibi what I've said publicly, and that
is, is that we will leave all options on the table in resolving it.
Q: Welcome, Mr. President. On your way back to Washington on Friday, what
will you consider a successful visit? Convincing the Israeli leaders that they
can rely on you on the Iranian issue, especially that I learned that there are
differences between Israel and the United States concerning the enrichment of
the uranium? Or convincing both sides, Israelis and Palestinians, to revive the
floundering negotiations, reviving the floundering peace process?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, my main goal on this trip has been to have an
opportunity to speak directly to the Israeli people at a time when obviously
what was already a pretty tough neighborhood has gotten tougher, and let them
know that they've got a friend in the United States, that we have your back;
that we consider Israel's security of extraordinary importance to us, not just
because of the bonds between our peoples but also because of our own national
security interest.
In that context, what I have also sought to achieve here is further
consultations, building on what we've already discussed - as Bibi has just
formed a new government, as I am entering my second term - that we continue to
have close consultation around some of these shared interests that we've already
discussed, Iran being obviously a prominent shared concern. I want to make sure
that the Israeli people and the Israeli government consistently understand my
thinking and how I'm approaching this problem. And I want to understand how the
Israeli government and the Prime Minister is approaching this problem to make
sure that there are no misunderstandings there.
With respect to the peace process, as I said, I'll have more to say about
this tomorrow. But I think you are absolutely right that over the last year,
year and a half, two years, two and a half years, we haven't gone forward. We
haven't seen the kind of progress that we would like to see.
There's some elements of good news. I mean, the fact of the matter is, is
that even with all that's been happening in the region, the Palestinian
Authority has worked effectively in cooperation with the international community
- in part because of some of the training that we, the United States, provided -
to do its part in maintaining security in the West Bank. We have seen some
progress when it comes to economic development and opportunity for the
Palestinian people.
But the truth of the matter is trying to bring this to some sort of clear
settlement, a solution that would allow Israelis to feel as if they've broken
out of the current isolation that they're in, in this region, that would allow
the incredible economic growth that's taking place inside this country to be a
model for trade and commerce and development throughout the region at a time
when all these other countries need technology and commerce and jobs for their
young people, for Palestinians to feel a sense that they, too, are masters of
their own fate, for Israel to feel that the possibilities of rockets raining
down on their families has diminished - that kind of solution we have not yet
seen.
And so what I want to do is listen, hear from Prime Minister Netanyahu -
tomorrow, I'll have a chance to hear from Abu Mazen - to get a sense from them,
how do they see this process moving forward. What are the possibilities and what
are the constraints, and how can the United States be helpful? And I purposely
did not want to come here and make some big announcement that might not match up
with what the realities and possibilities on the ground are. I wanted to spend
some time listening before I talked - which my mother always taught me was a
good idea.
And so, hopefully - I'll consider it a success if when I go back on Friday,
I'm able to say to myself I have a better understanding of what the constraints
are, what the interests of the various parties are, and how the United States
can play a constructive role in bringing about a lasting peace and two states
living side by side in peace and security.
Q: Mr. President, I'm going to follow up a little bit on the peace process.
You began your term, your first term, big fanfare - Cairo speech to talk to the
Muslim world, the decision to have a Middle East envoy early. You said you
weren't going to let this slip to your second term. We're in your second term
with the Middle East peace process. What went wrong? Why are we further away
from a two-state solution? I know you said you want to talk more about this
tomorrow, but I am curious. What do you believe went wrong? Did you push Israel
too hard? What do you wish you would have done differently?
And, Mr. Prime Minister, I want to help out my colleague over here on the
follow-up that he had, which had to do with do you accept the President's
understanding that Iran is a year away when it comes to nuclear weapons? And
another question I had for you - I guess my question to you was going to be, why
do you believe the Israeli people have not embraced President Obama the same way
they embraced our last two U.S. Presidents? Thank you.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: The opening premise of your question was that having failed
to achieve peace in the Middle East in my first term that I must have screwed up
somehow. And I will tell you I hope I'm a better President now than when I first
came into office, but my commitment was not to achieve a peace deal in my first
year, or in my second year or my third year. That would have been nice. What I
said was I was not going to wait to start on the issue until my second term,
because I thought it was too important. And that's exactly what I did.
I'm absolutely sure that there are a host of things that I could have done
that would have been more deft and would have created better optics. But
ultimately, this is a really hard problem. It's been lingering for over six
decades. And the parties involved have some profound interests that you can't
spin, you can't smooth over. And it is a hard slog to work through all of these
issues.
I will add that both parties also have politics, just like we do back home.
There are a whole bunch of things that I'd like to do back in the United States
that I didn't get done in my first term. And I'm sure I could have been more
deft there as well. But some of it's just because it's hard, and people
disagree, and it takes I think a confluence of both good diplomatic work, but
also timing, serendipity, things falling into place at the right time, the right
players feeling that this is the moment to seize it.
And my goal here is just to make sure that the United State is a positive
force in trying to create those opportunities as frequently as possible, and to
be as clear as possible as to why we think that this is an important priority -
not only because of some Pollyanna-ish views about can't we all get along and
hold hands and sing “Kumbaya,” but because I actually believe that Israel's
security will be enhanced with a resolution to this issue. I believe that
Palestinians will prosper and can channel their extraordinary energies and
entrepreneurship in more positive ways with a resolution to this issue. The
entire region I think will be healthier with a resolution to this issue.
So I'm going to keep on making that argument. And I will admit that, frankly,
sometimes it would be easier not to make the argument and to avoid the question,
precisely because it's hard. That's not the approach that I've tried to
take.
And there have probably been times where, when I've made statements about
what I think needs to happen, the way it gets filtered through our press - it
may be interpreted in ways that get Israelis nervous, just like there are folks
back home who sometimes get nervous about areas where they aren't sure exactly
where I stand on things. That's why I always like the opportunity to talk
directly to you guys. Hopefully, you'll show the live film, as opposed to the
edited version.
With that, I think you've got four questions to answer, Bibi.
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: I think that there's a misunderstanding about time.
If Iran decides to go for a nuclear weapon, that is to actually manufacture the
weapon, then it will take them about a year. I think that’s correct. They could
defer that a long time but still get through the enrichment process. To make a
weapon you need two things. You need enriched uranium of a critical amount and
you need a weapon. You can’t have the weapon without the enriched uranium but
you can have the enriched uranium without the weapon.
Iran, right now, is enriching uranium. It’s pursuing it. It hasn’t yet
reached the red line that I had described in my speech at the UN. They’re
getting closer though. The question of manufacturing the weapon is a different
thing. The President said correctly that we have, on these issues that are a
little arcane, they sound a little detailed to you, but on these matters we
share information and we have a common assessment.
In any case, Iran gets to an immunity zone when they get through the
enrichment process, in our view. Whatever time is left, there’s not a lot of
time. And every day that passes diminishes it. But we do have a common
assessment on these schedules, on intelligence. We share that intelligence and
we don’t have any argument about it. I think it’s important to state that
clearly.
I think that people should get to know President Obama the way I’ve gotten to
know him and I think you’ve just heard something that is very meaningful. It
might have escaped you but it hasn’t escaped me and that is the president
announced that in addition to all the aid that his administration has provided,
including iron Dome, including defense funding for Israel during very difficult
times, he has announced that we’re going to begin talks on another ten-year
process arrangement to ensure American military assistance to Israel.
I think this is very significant. And I want to express my thanks for
everything that you have done and I want to thank you also for that statement
you just made. I think it’s very, very important.
So I think Israelis will judge this by the unfolding events and by what’s
happening, what is actually taking place. And for this, you know, there’s a very
simple answer to your question. For this you need, you see, a second term as
President and a third term as Prime Minister. That really fixes things.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: All right, thank you very much, everybody.